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Poster: Stealz Date: Aug 5, 2007 9:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Ready...Set.....GO!!!------>and Goodnight

A couple days ago I asked what oddly paired songs any of you like that, on the surface don't make sense, but when mashed together they made for a good combo. Thank you all for your replies and thanks to those who also posted links.

Here's another one for you...

What's the most smokin' opening number that you just KNEW meant you were in for a ride that night?

1. Date
2. Location
3. Song(s)

And....

To you personally, what encore was the perfect blend of the boys saying, "g'nite... see ya soon, and oh, by the way, jam to this one on your way out the door!"?

Same deal,

1. Date
2. Location
3. Song(s)

Obviously so much could, and usually did, happen between the opening and closing numbers. But I always felt satisfied as long as they "woke" me up at the start and we parted ways on a good note. The openers and closers were always my favorite parts of a show. I guess I just always respected a concerted effort to knock us off our socks in the beginning and the receipt of a sincere farewell at the end.

What's your take?

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Poster: airgarcia416 Date: Aug 6, 2007 12:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ready...Set.....GO!!!------>and Goodnight

Opener -

Jack Straw - Peggy-O from 04-01-1991 Greensboro. Jack Straw is such a great song to open with, really gets everyone in the band into it. Another great Jack opener is Jack>It Must Have Been the Roses from 07-02-85 at Pittsburg (It also has a cool Revolution>Brokedown encore; but Jerry flubs the Brokedown [I think, may have been Revolution. Last show of tour and I was crispy] which really adds to the humanity/beauty of it)

Encore - Mighty Quinn from 04-05-1991. That paticular one may not be my favorite, but I love that song as an encore. When Quinn the Eskimo gets here, everybody's gonna wanta dose!!! How can you not love that final statement of freakiness. It was played so seldomly too, which really made it a great treat.

Spring of 91 (Southern swing - Greensboro, Atlanta and Orlando with Brue on keys) and the Summer of 85 were my favorite tours ('85 had such crazy set lists).

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Poster: Zaorish Date: Aug 7, 2007 8:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ready...Set.....GO!!!------>and Goodnight

This is a hard question. So many great openers & closers.

Openers:
I think the first Crazy Fingers ever (6-17-1975) is really pretty. In a different mood, I dig the 12-30-78 Jack Straw. 12-12-78's 1/2 Step > Franklins is unforgettable. In both, Keith is just whaling on his keys like he does in great late '78 shows.

Closers:1970
I know 5-15-70 is a somewhat overrated show, but the Lovelight > Cold Jordan is a real favorite of mine. A crazy, out-there blues jam followed by a humble little banjo spiritual. To me, there's something about closing with traditional, especially religious songs, that makes a Dead concert become a real ceremony.

The Feedback > We Bid You Goodnight on Dick's Picks 4 is great in this vein, as is 08-06-89's Lovelight>Johnny B>We bid you goodnight. That Cal Expo show takes the listener to a whole galaxy of different places and moods, yet the We Bid You Goodnight brings it all home. It's one of the longer versions of that song, too.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 6, 2007 8:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ready...Set.....GO!!!------>and Goodnight

My favorite closer, which they did many times, was UJBand, especially a partially acoustic version. That was the perfect song, I always thought, to send you into the night with that warm and fuzzy feeling about the boys, your friends at the show, and your sweetie.

Didn't get any better than that, in my view.

And yes, I think that CE--OO--CE--etc, or DS--SS--etc, either suite, were what I wanted to hear at the start of a night...

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Poster: ducats Date: Aug 6, 2007 6:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ready...Set.....GO!!!------>and Goodnight

4/14/82 Glens Falls Jack Straw

12/31/83 Oakland Goodnight Irene

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Poster: barongsong Date: Aug 6, 2007 10:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ready...Set.....GO!!!------>and Goodnight

I always liked:
1. For the opener, Help-Slip-Franklin's
and
2. It's All Over Now Baby Blue or We Bid You Good Night as the the closer.

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Poster: Stealz Date: Aug 6, 2007 10:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ready...Set.....GO!!!------>and Goodnight

Thanks everyone for your replies thus far. I agree, BryanE, these are the types of things I like to talk about. I've never been much of a major/minor, chord structure, or whatever any of that stuff means kind of guy. I understand and furthermore, respect that how a song is technically built and the music is written is extremely important to many. I suppose I'm in the ignorant camp on those types of things because I have no clue what any of these things mean much less how to even read music. I am, and always have been a little envious those who do understand the technical side(s) of music.

I've always been a purely emotional music fan. How does a song make me feel? Do I get jittery when I hear the first couple notes? Where, in my mind and spirit, is this song gonna take me this time?

Talking about stuff like we are in this thread is what I dig. I like lists and favorites, and mine change ALL the time to this day.

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Aug 6, 2007 7:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ready...Set.....GO!!!------>and Goodnight

Sorry--no time to double check dates here, but a few memories:

Open: Morning Dew, Truckin', Dark Star (ah, the 60s).
Closing: Pig Pen, 'Nuff said.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Aug 6, 2007 7:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ready...Set.....GO!!!------>and Goodnight

Assuming its ok to nominate shows I wasn't actually at (otherwise I'm going to be severely limited) then:

Opener: 12-31-69 Boston: China Cat Sunflower/I Know You Rider
(they surely can't have used that as an opener too many times?)

Encore: 4-12-78 Cameron Indoor Stadium: US Blues
(youtube link posted for this one the other day - if you missed it here it is again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdz0bBRGxgc

Go Jerry!)

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Poster: ducats Date: Aug 6, 2007 7:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ready...Set.....GO!!!------>and Goodnight

actually I think it was an opener b4 it moved to a second set opener

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Aug 6, 2007 7:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ready...Set.....GO!!!------>and Goodnight

Speaking of C/R openers setting the stage for what you knew was going to be a special night, I'll throw in my old favorite, 11/24/79, a primo example of what happens when Phil decides to drive the train and Jerry is motivated to keep pace. I know it's not an unusual combination, but as Rob refers to, its in an unsual spot. As for encores, I'll put my vote in with Rob's. Doesn't get much better when you're looking to end a show on a very HIGH note.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Aug 6, 2007 9:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ready...Set.....GO!!!------>and Goodnight

Hello Patrick – haven’t seen you around much the last couple of days. Hope you’ve been enjoying the weekend and doing good things.

I was trying to find out just how many times China/River had been a show opener. Well, I failed in that endeavour but I did some across this instructive thread from two years ago on set openers.

http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=40534

There are one or two familiar names there, some still with us, some not. However, the most telling thing that I’d like to draw to your attention is at the foot of the first post.

Can you imagine what kind of Herculean task 'editing for clarity' would be these days? I wouldn’t do it for pay.


This post was modified by robthewordsmith on 2007-08-06 16:01:37

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Aug 6, 2007 8:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ready...Set.....GO!!!------>and Goodnight

Hey, friend, greetings from the desert. My wife has been taking some time off work recently and I've been focusing on her instead of the fun and games here. I think that has been a good thing, especially given the recent exchanges. But, as it's been said, the only thing worse than being talked about is NOT being talked about.
Hope all is well and, also, there was no link to the older thread you referenced in your post. I recommend attending to that matter with all due haste.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Aug 6, 2007 9:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ready...Set.....GO!!!------>and Goodnight

Thank you. Patrick - it's fixed! I hope your wife's health issues aren't becoming a cause for concern again. Something on an oversight om my part for not asking sooner how things were going on that front.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Aug 6, 2007 10:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ready...Set.....GO!!!------>and Goodnight

Things are more than fine in that department, but thank you very much for asking (the humanity of many folks here is what keeps me returning). Our schedules are just very different ando I have to take the opportunities when available to spend some quality time.

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Poster: BryanE Date: Aug 6, 2007 8:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ready...Set.....GO!!!------>and Goodnight

#1
8/17/82
Alpine Valley Music Theater, East Troy, Wisconsin
The Music Never Stopped>Sugaree>The Music Never Stopped
(Released as Dick's Picks 32)

#2-A toss-up
8/16/80
Mississippi River Festival, Edwardsville, Illinois
Iko-Iko/One More Saturday Night
This was when Iko was still a novelty, right about the time it became a staple of the repertoire. It had been one hell of a night, the band playing through a fierce thunderstorm in the second set, so the song felt like a bit of a reward for the audience enduring the elements. I had never even heard it before that. It was pretty special.

8/17/89 (They all occurred on just about the same day of the year. JUST A COINCIDENCE?!?)
Alpine Valley
We Bid You Good-Night/Johnny B. Goode
(Released on video as Downhill From Here)
First WBYGN since the last night at the Winterland 12/31/78. Clearlight.com's setlist places the song at the end of the set as a Not Fade Away tag before the encore. I think I've seen the video, but going from memory of the show, I believe that they did, in fact, leave the stage before laying that big OH-MY-GOD moment on us.

Countless shows over the years might not have looked extraordinary on paper, but the energy that existed in the venue when they counted out the beat for the first song of the night would have resulted in Row, Row, Row Your Boat being a performance for the ages. I saw a couple of Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloos, for instance, that completely hit the mark: Seattle-7/1/79-they went right into Franklin's Tower afterward, and a two-fer from Jerry to start off the festivities was always fair warning that the music could very well catch fire that night; St. Louis-7/8/81-MS 1/2 Step>Feel Like A Stranger was a steamy start to a sultry summer's night, too.

I, for one, enjoy threads like this. They give us a chance to plumb the recesses of our memory to re-live those really high times.

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Poster: another one Date: Aug 6, 2007 11:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ready...Set.....GO!!!------>and Goodnight

i hate to be an asshole, but considering its one of my favorite shows ive got to do it

alpine valley is 7/19/89, not 8/17/89

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Poster: BryanE Date: Aug 6, 2007 11:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ready...Set.....GO!!!------>and Goodnight

You're not being an asshole, and your post prompted me to check my sources. As best I can surmise, and if it is, in fact, the "Downhill From Here" show we're talking about, then according to what I've found, we're both wrong: correct date is 7/17/89-not 8/17/89, not 7/19/89. I'm more than a little red in the face because I really wanted those similar dates I listed to be more than JUST A COINCIDENCE. There were a few songs from 7/19 included on Downhill, but most of that release, including We Bid You Good Night, is from 7/17/89:

http://www.deaddisc.com/vi/Downhill.htm

dates/schmates

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Poster: another one Date: Aug 6, 2007 12:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ready...Set.....GO!!!------>and Goodnight

wow i feel dumb. here i was correcting you and i was wrong myself. 7/17 is for sure downhill from here, 7/19 is my favorite show from that run.

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Poster: BryanE Date: Aug 6, 2007 3:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ready...Set.....GO!!!------>and Goodnight

let's share a laugh about it, eh?

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Aug 7, 2007 5:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ready...Set.....GO!!!------>and Goodnight

NERDS

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Poster: BryanE Date: Aug 7, 2007 6:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ready...Set.....GO!!!------>and Goodnight

Arnold!

Arn Man!

The Arnster!

Arnarama!

Tennessee Arnie Ford!